Alan Keyes sues Obama to prove citizenship

What else can be said about Alan Keyes that hasn't already been said? He is beyond redemption. Can someone please take his Black card and shred it? This is the same man who said that his daughter was dead to him simply because she came out as a lesbian when he ran for the Republican nomination several years ago. This smells like a pay-day to me. http://www.realchange.org/keyes.htm

Those 5 paid by the GOP black "Republicans" really need a life and could Keyes provide proof he is a, best not go there!

He doesn't deserve a dime for his nonsense. Hopefully, this isn't a payday for this confused individuals. I agree that he needs to get a life.

ship him back to Kenya, where he was born

you were talking about shipping Obama back to Kenya, where he was born, right? Obama should show his true LONG FORM birth certificate; if he had nothing to hide, he would show it ... and unseal all of his other records he's hiding ... you would think he is smart enough to want the people of the US to believe in him ... he could put this all to rest very easily.

The facts? FACT: Obama is yet to provide any documentation to any governing body validating his a) natural born, and/or b) properly maintained citizenship. FACT: What you have pictured is a Certification of Live Birth. What Obama has failed to cough up is a Certificate of Live Birth. In Hawaii, there's a big difference between the two; one is credible, the other isn't. "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL." ( http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl ). FACT: Factcheck.org debunked itself as both partisan and non-credible, several times over, specifically on this issue. FACT: What the State of Hawaii released, by way of a statement on this matter, said nothing about where Obama was born. Again, see for yourself: Director of Health for the State of Hawaii , Chiyome Fukino: "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i." All this statement proves is a) Obama was born, b) proof of that birth exists on paper, and c) their office is in receipt of that paper. Are we to believe they validated virtually everything about the existence of a birth certificate, except the one detail there's actually a question about? Accident? Oversight? They've been pressed and had plenty of time to fix it - but couldn't do it. They won't actually "vouch" for this fraud, anymore than any other governing body. That's why he took his happy Chicago ass to factcheck/annenberg. FACT: This guy ran on a platform of transparency....but now would rather fight 14 cases in 17 states to keep from having to show his actual Certificate of Live Birth?!?!? Really fella? FACT: This guy preaches about unity. Well put this issue to bed Barry, because if all this is is a cat and mouse game on your end...you're sacrificing the unity of every thinking American who still functions in this country, with that lowest common contingent of lazy and entitled bums who can't even take care of their own kids - that got you elected. SHOW YOUR CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH!! Sorry for the ferocity. I'm just tired of seeing article after article parrotting the same b.s. "facts", from authors that have no clue what they're talking about.

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...Really? Well humor me, because I think this is important enough for us to get our facts straight. So let's explore that. Hawaii doesn't issue "birth certificates". The state offers "Certificates of Live Birth" and "Certifications of Live Birth." What Barack Obama has posted on his website is a "Certification of Live Birth." So let's talk about the difference between the two documents. As you probably know, the document we commonly refer to as a "birth certificate" (more formally called a Certificate of Live Birth) is packed with detail. Detail like the hospital you were born in, the doctor who delivered you along with his/her signature, etc. It looks like a tax form with all the boxes and everything. The Certification of Live Birth is really just a snapshot of that. So which one is more credible? Which one does the state of Hawaii give the "last word" to? Based on information that existed long before this issue came up, let's take a look at what the state of Hawaii has to say on it:

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL." (http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl ).

So if the state of Hawaii itself doesn't accept "Certifications of Live Birth" as a last leg of verification, it's safe to say there's a pretty solid distinction we too can make when comparing a Certificate to a Certification. What Barack Obama posted, was a Certification. What people want to see, is the Certificate. When you say he "posted his birth certificate" on his website, the truth (painful as it may be to hear) is that he posted a much different document that if accurately described, would be a "birth certification" - which is far less credible and far easier to alter.

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"This is ridiculous" doesn't count as a refutation. Simply, answer the question with the simple documentation that is being asked of you in double digit numbers of court rooms across the country, including the Supreme Court. It may go away. It may be dismissed again based on standing. But President-Elect Obama's refusal to quell what have become very real questions about this, will only serve to leave many good Americans who hope to vigorously support their President...with far too much doubt to be able to do so. Production of a Certificate of Live Birth is a very small price to pay for unity.

Hank Rand
Cleveland, OH

Demanding Proof of Obama's Natural-Born Citizenship Lawsuits proliferate demanding proof of Barack Obama's natural-born citizenship in 14 states were dismissed due to the plaintiff's lack of standing, without the court actually investigating the complaint. But Alan Keyes' (a former presidential candidate) case in California will be one in which the plaintiff is deemed to have sufficient standing, leading the court to investigate the complaint instead of dismissing it. A case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, that challenges Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court. The Court's website has listed his case to be reviewed at a Dec. 5th conference, just 10 days before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet to make formal the election of Obama as the nation's next president. Another case regarding Obama's citizenship status, filed by Democrat Philip J. Berg of Philadelphia, is also currently before the U.S. Supreme Court. The defendants, including Obama and the Democratic National Committee, have until December 1st to respond to Berg's appeal to the Supreme Court. Once the defendants have responded, the Supreme Court will rule on whether or not the case will be heard. Another lawsuit filed requesting the birth certificate, a document that Obama has so far refused to produce in court, is Andy Martin's lawsuit against the Hawaii Department of Health. Arguing for the certificate's release, hearings were heard in court on Tuesday, November 18th. The judge in Hawaii reserved his judgment on Martin's case until a later date.

This is article is so lame, even the writer was unwilling to put his or her name on it! That says it all.

You gotta hear this 90 minute blogradio on why the media has a blackout of the looming Obama Birth Certificate Constitutional Crisis: http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-is-obamas-birth-certificate-still.html

Why is Hank Rand having to tell a reporter the difference between a "Certification of Living Birth" and a "Certificate of Live Birth". I guess it proves again that the media will not research the facts and not hold BO accountable. IF it does turn out that BO is not a citizen then all these so-called reporters (CNN, MSNCB, ABC, etc) need to be held accountble (with the DNC) and fired. Or course all this can be simply answered be having BO show his real 1961 type wrtten birth certificate.

Here is my comment in full, since they cut it down: http://hankrand.blogspot.com/

Well, I see this article is starting to generate some action from all the stubborn bigots and haters who still cannot believe this man won. Get over it real soon. To the person who said send him back to Kenya. I say send your ancestors back to wherever they came from. Remember the Indians were here first and there is proof that Africans were here before your Ancestors arrived if they are from Europe. If they are not then perhaps you might want to consider moving to Europe or elsewhere since you seem to be unhappy about the outcome of the election. President Elect Barack Hussein Obama please show your birth certificate so these naysayers can shut up --- especially Keyes.

Interesting that this issue has gained this much traction, yet the mainstream media, including those considered left (MSNBC) and those right (FOX) have not covered it. A certificate of live birth with a certificate number blacked out, no hospital, no attending physician, on one's own website can hardly be compared to a birth certificate. If there is a BC, then it should be (and probably will have to be) produced. If Obama does, that settles it. If there is legal grounds to end it without the production of a BC that will not bode well for the next 4 years. If Obama cannot produce a BC and it disqualifies him that will not bode well for civil peace. No matter how you slice this, the constitution must prevail or none of this will mean a thing within the next decade, as we decend to just another country and not the democratic beacon of the world.

Those long post should be deleted. They are twice as long as the article itself. The writers are beligerent and represent the vilest of Americans. Yuk!!!

I would also add that Alan Keyes will go down as the most hated patriot in America or the most hated sore loser. Either way he's doing this despite what people think of him. That says something about the man's character. He's not about popular opinion, and that says something in todays political atmosphere.

What a bunch of gullible people. I mean really in this day and age of Photoshop, you are going to accept a scanned document posted on Obama friendly sites as "fact?" Well, for me it is NOT sufficient proof for me. We are talking about THE most important job in America. Hand over the documents to a judge, I want it verified.

Keyes is a nut, sore loser and a butt plug. If you buy his nonsense, you belong in a padded cell next to him!

Have no fear, this joker and his racist wife will never make it to the White House. He cannot provide one and Alan Keyes is not the only concerned party. If he has one he MUST produce it now. If not now then when a federal lawsuit is filed he will surely have to answer. He is not above the law, remember Clinton. So to all concerned, I say just relax and see what lies ahead. ( no pun intended)

well folks....it's getting no press at all.

It's amazing how many idiots there are in this world. Do you really think we'll let him take that position without verifying his birth status? Oh I get it. You're smarter than U.S. Intelligence. So, because his Kenyan relatives say he was born in Kenya, you're willing to look like an idiot making these ridiculous claims. I have a few bridges to sell you. Get a life people.

Sour grapes anyone? These people need to move on to something else to smear Obama with because this story is beyond ridiculous. "Hank" you need to keep digging, I know we can count on right-wingers to keep the lies coming over the next 4 years.

WHY DON'T ALAN KEYES GO TO KENYA -- AND STAY?

I got hot after reading this article the first time, because I'm so fed up with reading the same absolutely and entirely inaccurate reporting of "facts" on this matter. It's pretty simple: 1). He posted a Certification, not a Certificate. In Hawaii, they don't recognize the former as credible. 2). The statement released by the state of Hawaii addressed everything EXCEPT the origin of the certificate. It's ultimately, bone dry. 3). With transparency as a promise and unity as a pursuit, Barack Obama strangely is able to get a pass on his refusal to quell this. If what he gave to factcheck validated everything, hand that over. If it doesn't (which it doesn't), hand the Certificate of Live Birth over (different than the "Certification"). I'm not claiming to know the answer. You shouldn't either. All I'm claiming is, there is an outstanding question here...and regardless of how many articles like this one come out, packed with misinformation - it doesn't change the reality that there's a very real question to answer. Production of a Certificate of Live Birth is a small price to pay for unity. See my blog for the whole story...(it's my first one, I don't want to become a "blogger" for god sake). http://hankrand.blogspot.com/ Sorry to all who take this personally. Guilty of that myself, I mean that sincerely.

Mr. Obama - "there's some stuff that's been left undone." On November 4, 2008 those voting for Barack Obama may in fact have voted for a non-candidate in the presidential election. Obama refuses to answer mounting lawsuits in various states regarding whether or not he was born as an American. All it would take to clear up this question would be for him to produce a legal copy of his actual birth certificate, which to-date he has refused to do. The pressure is growing daily and now there is speculation that in fact he does not have a legal American birth certificate. If you believe that Obama went to Hawaii to only see his Grandmother then; where was Michelle and why were the girls not allowed to see their Great-Grandma "Toot" for the last time?? Folks get a grip. This Obama trip to see Grandma 'Toot" was put together with ABC and Good Morning America as a two-fold attempt to, 1) legitimize a Publicity stunt to gain sympathetic favor for Obama and, 2) provide a cover for Obama to solicit a legal story and affidavit from Grandma 'Toot" as to his claim of having been born in Hawaii. "One of the things I want to make sure of is that I had a chance to sit down with her and talk to her," Obama told Roberts on GMA. "She's still alert and she's still got all her faculties. And I want to make sure that I don't miss that opportunity right now." "And then we're going to find out what chores I can do, because I'm sure there's been some stuff that's been left undone," he said. Yes, there was good reason that Obama needed to "talk with her and find some chores that need to be done!" And it's very important that you the voter decipher his words "she's still alert and she's got all her faculties." He keeps repeating this mantra because that's an absolute requirement for a valid affidavit. And Grandma “toot” was the only American relative left that could cover-up his birthplace. Obama's other grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Mr. Barack H. Obama was born in Kenya. Reports further reflect that Mr. Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy. Wayne Madsen, Journalist with Online Journal as a contributing writer published an article on June 9, 2008 stating that a research team went to Mombassa, Kenya, and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Kenya Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen. There are claims of records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii, but these have not been released for scrutiny. It is alleged in the various lawsuits and is a matter of much general speculation that Mr. Obama's mother was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. It is likely that Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Barack Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth. Yes, Mr. Obama, “… there’s some stuff that’s been left undone!” NOW SHOW THE WORLD YOUR ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and all the stuff will be done! PS:Nowhere in the article released about the state of Hawaii viewing Obama's birth certificate did it actually say that Obama was born in Hawaii. It merely stated that a birth certificate was on file and protected from the public. I would like to hear a definitive statement from the Department that Obama was born in the state of Hawaii, the place he was born, and who delivered him. Those items are all on every child's certificate of life birth from the state of Hawaii. For the state not to release that information is to play word games with what the public believes they are reading. Obama's records are still under wraps. WHY????

Two words for Keyes UNLE TOM and I hope Massah gets tried of him shuts him up.

Andy Martin failed, his suit is over and will be dismissed, what do the conspiracy people do next? Why not file charges against the State of Hawaii, last June Obama requested and the state sent a certificate which Obama posted and was later confirmed to be legitimate. As you conspiracy nuts claim it was a forgery you can file charges against Hawaii for sending fake documents, that should be your next step, You can try to prove your view after Obama has served 2 terms. Maybe Hawaii also sent fake death certificates for Elvis, add that to your charge! Good luck on that Tin Man! (that's the 4th suit thrown out so far) link to Hawaii court: http://hoohiki1.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki/main.htm case number to find: 1CC081002147

Production of an actual Certificate of Live Birth (as opposed to the less credible Certification of Live Birth) is a small price to pay for unity. The state of Hawaii said nothing of the origin of the Certificate they have on file. An accident or oversight? Okay. But why not correct or revise it, to put this to bed? During these difficult economic times, if the Certification you're talking about validates everything, why not hand it over to the courts - and use the money he's spending fighting to keep it out of court, in more charitable ways? I know it's irritating for those who support Barack Obama to hear this stuff. I can absoutely see it being viewed as desperate or whackjob or any number of blanket descriptions. But whether you think it's valid or not, can you at least recognize that (there are a few grounded people on "my" side of the issue) it's equally, if not moreso irritating for us to watch this unfold while he just won't produce the one document that would remove all doubt? It's a cat and mouse game that Barack Obama, as the leader he claims to be, preaching transparency and unity...should not only be willing to end, but eager to. And still, nothing. And yes, an authentic Certificate of Live Birth would be enough for most of us to let this rest and move forward to more healthy debate and discourse...recognizing and supporting our President-Elect's imminent inception in to office. Maybe not all of us would end it there, but some of us would...and some of us, is better than none. Especially as "us" harbors an increasingly large number with each passing day.

All Obama has to do is prove he is eligible to be President, why doesn’t anyone understand this. In choosing to ignore this all my former senator has done is stirred up more controversy. He needs to prove his eligibility as the other writer said like its your license to drive or buy beer, but in this case we will be driving America so I think its a very valid request that he prove he is eligible to drive. I have to admit I was skeptical at first but kept an eye on the many lawsuits that have been filed, and Obama has failed to prove he is eligible to President. The American people have a right to make sure the Constitution of this country is upheld. What is so hard Obama prove your citizenship like I have to prove my car is registered, I have insurance ,and a license when if I ever get pulled over. Well Obama the American people have asked that you get pulled over to verify that you are eligible to President.

Who rights a 3 page comment unless they enjoy reading their own post? Hank Rand!!! Hank you are full of yourself, like most Rightwingnuts. Keep whining there buddy!!!

Obama cultists can try to trivialize this issue all they want, but there are several major citizenship issues that may well prevent Obama from being sworn-in on Jan. 20th. US citizens that believe in the US Constitution should DEMAND a FULL investigation of ALL Obama's citizenship issues. This is real, folks.

Who writes a 2 sentence comment offering nothing but insult unless their brain hurts after being challenged by something thoughtful? Zero!!! Zero you are empty, like most libtards. Keep bringing nothing to the table there chief. It's not like THAT has anything to do with our country's demise.

Some of these posts are so ridiculous. I swear...some people are such sheep that they are willing to be led by the dumbest ReTHUGlican possible. Obama's new theme song should be "Hi Hater" Hi Hater Hi Hater You See Me Hi Hater Some of you people just can't get over the fact that this man won the election, and by a wide margin, and has ascended to the presidency. So...if it bothers you that much...then YOU move. This whining and grasping at straws about this birth certificate nonsense really goes to show the lack of common sense people had. If there was any shred of validity to this thing then you better believe that right wing blow hard Sean Hannity would have been covering it 24/7 up to and DURING election day. Just because its on to be heard by some courts doesn't mean anything. It will be dismissed as just another frivilous waste of tax payers time and money court case.

Got to love the first line of the article: "Alan Keyes just won't quit." Yeah, no pro-Obama media bias here folks.

This hasn't even made national news. Don't take this seriously.

John and others, the issue hasn't gained any traction, any fool can bring a lawsuit, but that doesn't mean the lawsuit has merit. Obama has proven he's a US citizen, it is his accusers who must prove that he is not. Hank, John, Alen Keyes, etc. have no proof that Obama isn't a citizen, and unless you can furnish the proof, the media and anyone else with a brain is right to ignore these claims, and to treat the people who are spouting this garbage as the nutcases that they are.

OBAMA, WE ARE YOUR EMPLOYERS AND WE DEMAND ALL PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP INCLUDING: BIRTH CERTIFICATE, COLLEGE RECORDS, FBI FINGER PRINTS, ALL KENYAN DOCUMENTAION, ALL IDONESIAN CITIZENSHIP DOCUMENTAION, ADOPTION PAPERS UNDER THE NAME BARRY SOETORO, ALL PASS PORTS, YOUR MOTHER'S CHILD DELIVERY RECORDS, AND ALL DOCUMENTATION OF REENTRANCE INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM ANYWHERE. NOTE: WE WILL NOT GO AWAY UNTIL YOU HAVE PROVEN YOURSELF TO THE US SUPREME COURTS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE INDEED QUALIFIED TO BE POTUS. PLEASE PUT THE DOUBTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO REST. SO WE CAN SUPPRT YOUR PRESIDENCY. IF YOU DO NOT DO WHAT YOU ARE ASKED IT ONLY PROVES THAT YOU LACK INTEGRITY AND THAT YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING....

Please, please send me back to where Obama was born. The weather's cold here. I could use a Hawaiian vacation.

He's a natural born citizen. Get over it. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

AngelaTheOhioNurse - Typing in CAPS is OBNOXIOUS. Oh and by the way, YOU'RE A MORON.

CommonTater - careful, you might be asking for a ticket to Kenya!

Despite what others have said, a certificate of live birth and a certification of live birth are both "birth certificates." That term encompasses a variety of forms of birth records. Barack's certification of live birth is a short form birth certificate. The one with the hospital information is a long form birth certificate. Supposedly, standard procedure in Hawaii is to provide a short form birth certificate, but they will provide a long form on request. The US State Department will accept a short form birth certificate (certification of birth) from Hawaii as proof of citizenship and birth, but they won't accept the short forms issued by California or Texas. Short form certificates are abstracts of the long form. On the short form, Onaka has certified that the long form was filed on Aug. 8, 1961, and that the long form said Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961. If he altered the certification to say Obama was born in Hawaii when he wasn't, Onaka can be fined up to $1,000 and jailed up to 6 months. Many people think Obama can settle the matter by simply releasing a certified copy of his long form birth certificate, but if some people think the certified short form is a forgery, those same people will say the long form is a forgery. The controversy will continue.

The only relevant fact is this. Belief (e.g., disbelief, wishful thinking)can be so strong that a person becomes incapable of separating the content of the belief from the bitter insistence of reality. If it does not mesh with the held belief, it can not be true. Whether the belief be a culturally prevailing moral code, Obama's citizenship or who the greatest basketball player of all time is, debating with people when they are in this mode is pointless. It is as productive as trying to convince a four year old, with tightly closed eyes, that simply because s/he can't see you doesn't mean you can't see him/her. I must admit it would be nice, however, were these citizenship deniers to take a similar stance about the existence of gravity.

Okay, you got me. I admit that, as part of the Trilateral Commission, I did create that phony birth certificate. I really thought you'd believe it, but I guess you were all too smart for us. After all, we had successfully created the fake moon landing on a Hollywood sound stage, and then we did that whole thing in faking a "Holocaust" when, of course, you smart folks knew that there were no death camps. And we make up all that shit about "Jim Crow," too. The "white only" waterfountains? We just made that up. Fact is, black and white people lived pretty much the same in the South. Sorry to have lied to you. And I'm glad you were smart enough to see through our fakery. You're a true genius, and the nation should be grateful!!!

LMAO!!! These silly neo-nuts are STILL trying to pimp this "Illuminati-secret code in the new $10 bill-New World Order" birth certificate nonsense?? LOL!!!! ummm....He's PRESIDENT!! And all of your delusions that outta the clear blue sky Justice Scalia is gonna swoop down and "save the day from the African demon" is just your wishful thinking and you really need to take your pills for that. I wish these right-wing nuts would get some common sense, but they are certainly good for some laughs...that's for sure!

This is just too funny, the right-wing nuts are a hopeless determined bunch. If this is the news circulating in the neo-con sphere, then they are going to continue losing for the foreseeable future.

Wow. How utterly desperate is the right that it hires a radical right wing terrorist like keys..... I don't know it the right got the memo but..... I think they lost.... The election is over.... Just ignorant!

I'm so ashamed to know the fact that Obama refuses to produce his real birth certificate and refuses to release his school record. Where was he born? Why did he use foreign student visa (Indonesian student) to study in the US? Click this link and see what the Black Community expressed their opinions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

Lord, why are all these right wing, anti-black GOP folks posting this nonsense??? And, better yet, why don't they just leave the country since they are so angry and mad that the black guy won in a fair election??? Yep a black guy born in the USA won, deal with it.

if anyone thinks for a second that his "actual" birthplace will escape detection of the fbi, cia, secret service, interpol and other myriad intelligence agencies that would grant him top secret clearance is more foolish than their own assertion!

Well, I see the crackpots are still at it.

Hey right-wing fruitcakes...since you think President-elect Obama is the antichrist, shouldn't you be ok since you've been living right and waiting on the rapture anyway?? Its almost time for you to meet your Jesus!! Hope you're not too disappointed when he looks more like Barack Obama SR. then the painting hanging in your living room!

When McCain was asked this question, which was reported in all of the mainstream media who somehow left out the fact that Obama was being asked the same thing, McCain produced all of his records and here was the result:http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text Interesting that Obama was there but did not raise his hand and say, "You know I have been having similar questions. Here are all of my records please review them and issue a similar ruling." Instead he produces his COLB to factcheck and calls it a day. It may be that once the new Senate is called Obama will try something similar. That will not stand as McCain did the honorable thing and disclosed all of this before the election. Whatever Obama has been hiding is going to come out.

So much bad information. I hear a lot of Obama's fairy tales similar to his books he wrote. You know the two books that he had published and he was a nobody? I know Obama's campaign had spread these stories and because MSM fails to report on the 16 lawsuits going on now no one knows the truth about Obama. NO ONE KNOWS ANY TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA because he refuses to release any documents other than his two books for his history. Yet the DNC and Obama have paid $800,000.00 or more to stall showing documents the Constitution says he must to be eligible for POTUS. Whether you like Obama or not you should be angry. Ground stomping mad that all these judges, DNC, Obama and campaign people are refusing to uphold the consititution they swore to uphold while placing their hand on the bible. We let this slide by we can kiss the Constitution goodbye forever because Obama has already said he plans on changing it so government can have more power. A lot of updates of the lawsuits and what you can do. http://www.aunetwork.tv/ Collective Consciousness Conference Call #78 11-13-2008 On the short form, Onaka has certified that the long form was filed on Aug. 8, 1961, and that the long form said Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961. What Fukino actually said about Obama's now sealed birth certificate. Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Department of Health for the State of Hawaii, on October 31, 2008: "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. "No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i." That is the actual comments. In Hawaii you can get a birth certificate and be foreign born. Go to Hawaii records. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amendment? Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country. Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amended certificate of birth? Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event’s occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements. This is not foolish. This is your Constitutional right to know that your President has no other allegiance to another country. Obama could be Hamas controlled for what little we know. This is absolutely not republican verses democrat. This is your CONSTITUTIONAL right. Both sides of the parties have filed.

I don't believe I have ever seen more racial slurs, stereotypes and hate speech in my life than I have since Obama's election started. Just take a look at what is here. it is scary to think we walk among these people. Obama created this hate and diversity everytime someone spoke a truth about him. It was his way to deflect. To create chaos and anger. Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals Obama learned well. Read the book. Then look at his past where he asked a candidate in Illinois how he ran such a racist campaign and then got the people on his side later.

A very frightening incident! This incident is recounted by a person known as "TF" who is 100% vouched for. "TF" said this: During the period of roughly February 1982 to mid 1984, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, USSR, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the USSR scientific community. One of the men in charge on the USSR side was a man known to many in the secret service as "V. M." He had a wife we will call "T.K." As the evening wore on, T.K developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge. “Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.” “What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Commanist?” The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Commanist.” One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.” “Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father from Africar. And he’s going to be your President He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an athe ist and a islam and a Commanist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.” We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he’d be a Commanist to boot. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet. We Sovieters regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.” This proves that Soviets knew of Barack from a very early date. This is the most friehting thing I have ever heard.

"Just take a look at what is here. it is scary to think we walk among these people. " You walk around in their parents' basements? Are you a furnace inspector?

LMAO @ the numbnuts who keep spouting this foolishness. They are so gullible and naive. I wonder if those tin-foil hats are attracting too many rays from the sun.

Unfortunately for Hank and all of his morphs (his creations that posted in this thread as other people) that posted in this thread, the election is over, the BLACK MAN won, and white racists like Hank are now officially and forever marginalized. In other words Hank (and all of your morphs), what you say no longer matters in the real world. The fact is that the CIA, FBI, NSC, Interpol, MI6, Fox News, The Bush Justice Department and other euro and white-anglo centered agencies and organizations; found no evidence of PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA being born anywhere other than the USA. That may not mean nothing to you. However if you were an African American, you would know that PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA had to be cleaner than a Safeway chitlin' to even run for President. The fact that he won is even more evidence that PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA is a natural born citizen of the USA. Game over dude. You lost and the age of the African-Centrist worldview has officially commenced.

Obama will be sworn in on Jan 20, he has been vetted by appropiate security agencies and is current being briefed with top secret info, yes currently being briefed. So you give up your fruitlees rumor invention and accept reality. Now ask your selft why this issue is going nowhere, get a clue. so you think Obama is getting briiefed with top secret information on a phony birth certifcate, hey I can you a good deal on a bridge in Alaska.

Uhh, Where is a "human" signature on the form? every form from the govt. that shows anyone's birth has a signature. I thought his orginal name was barry? What's up?

Subject: FOI request for Obama's birth certificate --found on the internet at www.DailyJeff.com-has all 50 SOS emails-1 stop emailing! FOI REQUEST TO ALL SOS FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE We need to find out what the SOS of the various States know about Obama's birth certificate and qualifications to be president. If you have time, please send/fax/email the following FOI (freedom of information letter) to some or all of the SOS bureau of elections. After you get a response please post on www.obamacrimes.com, www.freerepublic.com, www.peoplespassions.org, http://americamustknow.com,www.rallycongress.com. 1. The address , fax number and email address for the Bureau of elections for the states are at www.eac.gov. 2. I like the faxes because they will respond quicker to them. Print off your generic FOI request and past/tape the next name over the top and fax it off. See emails listed below for all 50 SOS.Cut and paste to send all 50 at one time. Sit back and wait for answers. November 21, 2008 TO: BUREAU OF ELECTIONS Bureau of Elections, California 1500 11th St, 5th Floor FAX: 916-653-5634 Sacramento, CA 95814 Email: elections@sos.ca.gov ATTN: Freedom of Information Officer REF: Freedom of Information Act Request/Privacy Act/ Open Meeting Act, Common Law This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act. Please send the following documents for examining and photocopying: 1. Documents that show that Barack Obama is qualified to be President of the United States , including but not limited to: a. Original birth certificate b. Proof that he is a natural born United States citizen c. Proof that he was born in Kenya AS you know , the FOIA provides that if a portions of a document are exempt from release, the remainder must be segregated and disclosed. Therefore, I would like to examine all nonexempt portions of the records that I requested and I ask that you justify and deletions by citing specific exemptions of the FOIA This is a continuing request into the future for 6 months. If this is not the proper department, please forward to the Election Bureau/SOS. I promise to pay reasonable search and duplication fees in connection with this request. (Note: The FOIA permit some fee reduction or waivers). Please notify me if the charges will exceed ($20.00), so that I can decide whether to authorize a higher amount. Thank you for your assistance, I look forward to receiving your reply within five business days, as required by law. Sincerely, Robert Johnson 123 Main St Anywhere , CA Cc: Clerk of the US Supreme Court One First Street N.E. Washington, DC 20543 FAX: (209) 479-3021 WARNING Should any person try to cover up this request or documents herein, BE YOU HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE: You may be indicted under USC Title 18 Sec. 3. 4, 2381, 2382, 2383, and 2384. Also, 4 U.S.C. & 101, federal law requires all state employees and officers take an oath of office and records kept of such administered oath. Jeannie.price@sos.alabama.gov,governor@alaska.gov,governorsoffice@asg-gov.net, sosadmin@azsos.gov,sos@sosmail.state.ar.us,constituentaffairs@sos.ca.gov, secretary@state.co.us ,susan.bysiewicz@po.state.ct.us ,lorilee.harrison@state.de.us , Stephanie.scott@dc.gov,secretaryofstate@dos.state.fl.us,sosweb@sos.state.ga.us, elections@aloha.net,sosinfo@sos.idaho.gov,JWhite@ilos.net, constituentservices@sos.in.gov,sos@sos.state.ia.us,kssos@kssos.org,sos.secretary@ky.gov, bobby.jindal@la.gov,sos.office@maine.gov,bmorris@sos.state.md.us, agoweb@state.ma.us,secretary@michigan.gov,secretary.state@state.mn.us, administrator@sos.state.ms.us,sosmain@sos.mo.gov,sos@mt.gov,receptionist@sos.ne.gov, sosmail@sos.nv.gov,elections@sos.state.nh.us,feedback@sos.state.nj.us, nmsos@state.nm.us,info@dos.state.ny.us,emarshal@sosnc.com,sos@nd.gov, tworley@sos.state.oh.us,governor@gov.state.ok.us,Oregon.sos@state.or.us, pcortes@state.pa.us,correo@fortaleza.gobierno.pr,comments@sec.state.ri.us, rdaggerhart@sos.sc.gov,sdsos@state.sd.us,phil.bredesen@state.tn.us, secretary@sos.state.tx.us,mshurtleff@utah.gov,dmarkowitz@sec.state.vt.us, justice@usvi.org,soc@governor.virginia.gov,mail@secstate.wa.gov, wvsos@wvsos.com,wigov@gov.state.wi.us,secofstate@state.wy.us,

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WARNING: SPOILER ALERT

NOBODY BELIEVES YOU!!!!!!

Mr. Obama's the President now.

Got 8 Years to serve because...HE WILL...be re-elected.

Watch 'n see.

Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, Bill Richardson, Eric Holder...

...the gorgeous and feisty all-American MICHELLE OBAMA.

Get used to seeing those faces EVERY DAY for the next 8 years folks.

It's called SCREW YOU and stick the Birth Certificate issue up your ....

The whole world loves Obama and nobody gives a damn where he came from.

He's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Nothing you can do about that now.

I wondered why Freedom of Information requests get so backed up. For someone sane with a legitimate need for some government document, this is like being stuck in the grocery line with one item, only you're behind somebody with 100 coupons that don't quite match the items in his cart and who then wants to pay with Bulgarian travelers checks.

Hmmm, maybe Keyes doesn't know that Hawaii is a state. The sad part about all this is, the first blow to Obama after his win came from an African American..or is he? Cause he looks like he was born offshore. Creep!

That's why Malcom X died.

I still do not understand why the editors or managers of this site allows this junk to come through; especially, when the comment is longer then the article. Bottom line: Our President Elect, as the gentleman in the aforementioned has written, passed every major security check known to mankind. To all of you who think you have the evidence, go to the proper authories in government. Don't use this website to dump your foolish trash.

Why are all the people who are asking the tough questions being called "racist" and "bigots" in this thread? If you don't like the fact that Obama has never produced solid documentation, make a legit argument. Don't be a xenophobic jerk. I am a black guy that wants to see proof - am I racist? Uhh..... anyone? To clear up a solidly wrong comment by Ostend, Obama has not passed any background check at all. Trust me, I know a bunch of people from the military who have secret clearance or higher. The US would NEVER have given it to Obama. Granted, he has all the secrets now, but being President is the only way he would ever get access to secret clearance or higher. PS

In response to the comment by richcares, Obama has _NOT_ been "vetted by the appropriate security agencies." I don't know where that comment came form, but it is totally made-up. The security community has no authority to vet presidents or presidential candidates. From experience, I will tell you that no one with a long history of drug use and recent associations with shady characters would pass for secret or higher. I'm not even saying Obama is shady or a bad guy, just that he would not get the clearance. Period.

Alex, stop watching the X-files. Stop thinking everything you read on these tin-foil hate conspiracy threads are true. There is no secret code in the $20 bill, astronauts really did land on the moon, ELVIS IS DEAD!!! LMAO!!!

The CETIFICATION OF LIFE BIRTH is NOT a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. It is NOT a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. The terms are very important. If any of you have a cite to any document that does not have CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH at the top, then stop referring people to sites like factcheck that have that useless piece of information that does not proves anything. A CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH is insufficient to get a passport. Obama can sign a release and pay $12.00 and produce a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. That would show the name of the hospital, the names of the doctors that delivered him, etc. The real question is why would Obama risk a National and Constitutional crisis over a $12.00 BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH?

As much as we would like to encourage people to keep running up our traffic on the web site, I have to put a stop to this.

Although I graduated from law school 16 years ago, any first year law student could probably tell you that there is virtually no difference between a "certificate" and a "certification" of live birth. It's just a different "term of art" used in different jurisdictions.

In fact, if you look up the word "certification" in Black's Law Dictionary, it points you to the term "certificate," which is often used interchangeably. But even if the two are different, it doesn't matter because the state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the document and the existence of the original document in its files.

Sadly, I am astounded at the level of ignorance reflected here about basic principles of law, language, common sense and the U.S. Constitution. Do you really think the Federal Election Commission, the Electoral College, and the U.S. Congress, all of whom must certify the validity of a presidential election, would be so easily duped (not to mention the media and the McCain campaign), only to be outwitted by a group of misinformed Internet bloggers?

This conversation is over. Let's get back to reality.

Keith Boykin
Editor,
The Daily Voice