Obama picks Biden

Biden is great. Can't wait to watch the bulldog tear into the Republicans!

I just got my TEXT Obama/Biden '08!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!I agree Stan. Can't Wait!!

Obama/Biden?! This has as much punch as Lucy and Ethel!!! Get ready for President McCain. A scary, but true reality!!!

I think this is a great move!!!! Ignore the polls get out and register to vote, work at the polls, ensure accurate count of votes!!! Don't let Karl Rove and his croonies steal another election!!!!!

Once upon a time there was a black man who HAD a good chance of winning the presidency until he made the FATAL mistake of picking the WRONG v/p candidate.

Joe Biden?! Obama must still be taking drugs!!! They'll be lucky if they win 3 states!!!

YES WE CAN!!! No, we can't... With this ticket!!!

Not a Biden fan, but, can support this ticket, and am happy it was not HRC.

Thanks Obama! For handing McCain the White House!

Oh my God! I thought I'd never say this, but for the first time I have finally seen what my Aunt has been talking about. This man, Obama, is no genius and in fact, has just shown how dumb, self centered, and dangerous he truly is. And I was no Hillary fan, but I did believe that together they were an unstoppable force. But chosing Joe Biden has shown Obama to be every bit of the plastic politician that many critics said he was all along. I just can't believe this! He lost my vote and my confidence in him. This poor choice as a VP clearly shows that he doesn't know what he was doing and he is starting to believe his own hype. He obviously chose Biden to spite Hillary and show that he can do this on his own. I'm sorry but I don't think he can. He screwed this up big time!

Fired Up and Ready To Go!!!!!! Lets do this!

Now we have to arrogant wind-bags on the same ticket! I can't wait to see who out-talks who first. Between Obama's rambling a bunch of empty promises and Biden constantly sticking his own foot in his mouth, this proves to be one of the most laughable Pres/VP cards in recent history. Even Bush/Cheney wasn't this entertaining!

And we thought George Bush was stupid!

Ok Purl Gurl. Your on.

Biden is a smart cookie, but he will have to keep that mouth in check, I would have preferred Richardson or Napolitano, but, Biden is a good contrast, and, excellent with foreign policy issues, so, a good fit.

...well don't some of you just be naysayers...who should he have chosen...?

Woo-hoo! I just got my text message at 12:30 p.m. on SATURDAY!! The campaign says the text message went out at 3 a.m. Right!! Somebody at the Obama campaign should be fired for this ridiculous text message announcement. What was the purpose of sending out a text message at 3 a.m. after the news had already leaked out that Biden was the choice?? Who did they think would be up at 3 a.m.? How about sending the text out on Friday evening while the Olympics was on and everyone is watching TV? What an unbelievable gaffe. As for Biden--whatever.

This is what we've waited around all summer for?! JOE BIDEN?!!! This dream campaign just turned into a nightmare! Good luck, Obama! You'll need it!

I see some Hillary supporter have raided this post. I am glad it wasn't her. Before Edward's drama, I wanted him to be VP. I also liked John Kerry as well but this will do. The way the country is now, I don't think it would matter. Also I agree, Don't let Karl Rove and his croonies steal another election!!!!! Obama/Biden 08

He chose Biden over Hillary, Richardson, Bayh and Kaine????? Biden hardly garnered any votes during his short run for the Dem party nomination. Also, Biden has actually made racially insensitive remarks about us and Indian community. And yet, you Obama disciples applaud this choice yet criticize Hillary relentlessly for her campaign's perceived race-baiting? What the eff...Cynthia McKinney is looking more and more attractive as a candidate by the day. None of our remaining choices are perfect, but I can't stand a person who presents themselves as being something they are not. Change my ###

Langston I am just as shocked by his choice as you are but to bring up Cynthia (the embarrassment) McKinney is a but much. I had hoped he would have picked Al Gore because he did publicly say he would not mind going back to his old job. Joe Biden is the picture of Mr. Everday Working White Man but he is also a shoot from the hip artist and that is what worries me. More so than Michele Obama saying the wrong thing on the podium at the convention. Now I am hoping that old fart McCain puts that Mormon idiot (Romney) on his ticket so he can alienate the white southern baptists even more so than he has already done. Obama still has a chance.

Jay, I'm no Hillary supporter and I think it was the dumbest choice possible! And Barack is always preaching judgement. Well, where was his judgement when he picked this old bag of wind. What happened to change? What happened to a new face and energy to Washington? He sold us on that idea. Then goes out and picks one of the oldest, longest running Senators in politicts. Talk about flip-flopping. Again.

Great ticket and to the rest of you, get over it. Biden will be and is a great asset. McCain is boring and out of touch. If you want Bush/McCain be my guess, but as you suffer through it remember it was your choice like it was with Bush 4 years ago and now 100 gallons of heating oil $500 dollars to heat the house your are losing for about a month.

I guess all the naysayers have found an excuse to vote for McBush and 4 more years of terror and turmoil from the GOP. Obama/Biden 08!

Former Aide to Barack Obama and Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr Supported Clinton As VP The Major Challenge If Obama Doesn' t Choose Clinton As VP !!! "I was one of the first community organizers who Barack Obama met in Chicago over 20 years ago, and I have worked directly with him throughout his political career. In 1986, I was a city wide coordinator while Barack was the Project Director for Project Vote, a city-wide voter registration campaign that put over 100, 000 new voters on the books, which set the stage for the historic election of Illinois U.S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, the re-election of Chicago's 1st Black Mayor Harold Washington in 1987, and a new Chicago City Council. As a former national staff member on Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr's 1988 Presidential staff, and the youngest member of Jackson's Illinois Delegate slate, I watched how many of our key national field staff and supporters did not support the Democratic nominee Dukakis after Rev. Jackson as the number two vote getter was not on the ticket. Rev Jackson made more appearances on behalf of Dukakis than the candidate himself but it was not enough for those who withdrew their support of Dukakis. A clear example was when Jackson was in the primary he had a rally at Arie Crown Theater with over 6.000 people, but when Dukakis came to Chicago as the nominee was not able to fill the Regal Theater. Thousands of people clearly showed their withdrawal of support for Dukakis after Jackson was not the VP nominee. In 2008, The Democratic Party cannot afford for the excitement and new generation of voters that Obama and Clinton have brought to the process to turn off by the non inclusion of the other candidate on the ticket. A lot of new voters may not understand or will accept why the two top vote getters are not automatically the ticket. Based upon my direct experience of 1988, let me be one of the first to say that I would surely support the Obama/Clinton Dream Ticket, for anything less may be a nightmare. United they stand, but divided the party may fall. Clinton faces a tremendous burden of working hard to convince her supporters not to abandon Obama in 2008 the way Jackson supporters abandoned Dukakis in 1988. Emotions are extremely higher in 2008 thanthey were in 1988." Mark S. Allen Associate Editor The South Street Journal Newspaper *Veteran Political activist with over 30 "straight years in public service on local, state and national levels, including 7 years as a national staff member to the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr *Former talk show host on the legendary Black/News Talk Station WVON *Who's Who Among African Americans *Who's Who In Black Chicago 449 East 35th Street, 1st Floor 773-373-7000 or cell 773-392-0165

To Mark S. Allen -- This election is bigger than Chicago. The American people don't want Hillary Clinton - and especially not Bill again. Voters spoke loud and clear during the primaries. If Obama had chosen Jesus Christ as is VP - that still would satisfy some people. Good day.

Mr. Allen these ignorant rants that you post here from time to time are just outright pathetic. I would almost prefer to hear from Purl Gurl. You are the only one out there who believes that Jessie Jackson had more than snowballs chance in hell of becoming president of a nuclear armed nation. You and that man are a thing of the past. No one is interested in carrying on the legacy of that race-bating man but you. His own son apologized to the black community for the ignorant rants he did not too long ago and now here you persist with this b/s. Please go get a meaningful job. Bozo the clown passed away not to long ago and no one has stepped up to the plate yet to fill his shoes. You sound like you might be a good candidate for his legacy to be carried on. At least he MEANT for people to laugh at him.

Mr. Allen these ignorant rants that you post here from time to time are just outright pathetic. I would almost prefer to hear from Purl Gurl. You are the only one out there who believes that Jessie Jackson had more than snowballs chance in hell of becoming president of a nuclear armed nation. You and that man are a thing of the past. No one is interested in carrying on the legacy of that race-bating man but you. His own son apologized to the black community for the ignorant rants he did not too long ago and now here you persist with this b/s. Please go get a meaningful job. Bozo the clown passed away not to long ago and no one has stepped up to the plate yet to fill his shoes. You sound like you might be a good candidate for his legacy to be carried on. At least he MEANT for people to laugh at him.

It's o.k. Mr. Allen. Take your medicine. We're all are going to survive just fine without Jesse. Save your oratory.

Say my name three times and I shall appear. Obama lost the presidential election well before selecting Biden as his running mate, this is exceptionally clear. My presumption is the many have not been paying attention to what is being reported in the polls. No bump for Obama, no hump for Obama; he has lost this election with his ineffective campaign, hypocrisy and deceit. Only way Obama would win the presidential election would be to pick Hillary as his running mate. This would not be a win by Obama rather a win by Hillary who would carry Obama along as president. McCain will be our next president, thank goodness. Purl Gurl Choctaw Nation

You are a damn lie and that was a poor try at imitating Purl Gurl. I mean PISS POOR. Once again we have an imposter. If you were her your rant would be a helluva lot longer and the signature would be different. LOL. TOO MUCH HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE LAST TIME PURL GURL WAS HERE FOR HER TO BE THAT SHORT AND SOUR. HER RANT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS LONG AS THE ARTICLE, IF NOT LONGER. Plus she would have added statistics. And would have been a lot more professional looking and sounding. Where is the bitch? The ORIGINAL bitch I am referring to. Not you imposter.

Brucito! How have you been? Good to read from you. LOL - You know Purl Gurl too well. Take Care!

I do have quite the talent to elicit the very best behavior from people.

Last I participated here, one of The Daily Voice editors censored my article using a lame excuse comments cannot be longer than an original article. Subsequently, I have noted this censorship is not applied to others, well evidenced by a participant's lengthy comments found on this page.

I am not motivated to add my significant writing talents and my significant knowledge to a site which practices selective censorship; this smacks of bigotry much as Brucito displays extreme bigotry.

Purl Gurl
Choctaw Nation

NO WE CAN'T!!! Win without Clinton's 18 million! You dumb, blind, Obamrons just don't get it! I can't wait for November 4th when 3/4 of the states on CNN's election map will be red!!! GO McCAIN! You just got ANOTHER black vote!!!

He didn't even go through the motions of vetting her. He talks about change and politics of the past. Isn't Biden politics of the past??? He's been there longer than Hillary.

I wish it was Biden/Feingold, but oh well!

How sweet of you to ask. I am fine Deena. Hope all is well for you too. The person claiming to be our long missing "friend" here still has the signature wrong.

There are a lot of idiots on this post. WHO CARES WHO OBAMA PICKED. DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT A PERSON WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS OR HOW MANY CARS HE HAS CAN RUN THIS COUNTRY? DO ANY OF YOU BELIEVE THIS NONSENSE. Everyone in here stop playing games with your families and your selves. I have said this once and I will say it again. If you like the last four to eight years then go right ahead and vote for Mc bush. I'll do you one better, you can stay home because a lot of people simplely won't vote for black man anyway.

Clinton supporters need to move on and stop being so emotional and look at the condition of our nation under 8 years of GOP rule. HRC wasn't vetted for a simple reason....Bill couldn't pass the process. It would have required Bill to open the books to the donors of his library and some of his business affiliations which have ties to the MidEast. HRC knows this, Bill knows this, Obama knows this. The Rove-Republican machine would have eaten an Obama-Clinton ticket up alive. But the bitter angry HRC supporters are too blind to accept this. As any good politician knows, you get behind the one that can win and negotiate what you want behind closed doors. HRC is doing this. Her and Obama I'm sure has cut some sort of deal to push her health program through when he becomes POTUS and some other perks. This is a team sport now.....not the primaries.

Poor Obamamorons. It's gonna be a sad day for you come Nov 4th when your paper leader is cut to shreads. And thank God. Could you imagine Michelle as First Lady?! Scary thought... Go McCain! Can't wait to see you and a REAL FIRST LADY in the White House...

KC, you'll like that you also should stay home Nov. 4th. I agree with Hr. Also, Have you notice that the GOP is also mad that Obama didn't pick Hillary? Some don't seem right about that at all. Just look at the "he didn't pick hillary ad" by John Mcbush.

Oh Jay, you poor dilusional soul... The GOP is LOVING Joe Biden because they know they can beat the wannabe MLK and his loose-lip sidekick. Beating those two clowns will be a breeze!!!

Has Puma invaded The Daily Voice also???!!!!.Then again with all this Obama bashing with terrible spelling, I hope they're children talking all this non-sense.

More people voted for Aemricam Idol that in the last election, so thats why I say that Clinton and her 18 million voters are key to Obama, in addition to key national Obama surrogates like Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Jr, The Kennedy's and others that have to motivate others who have not voted for anyone in years !

My comments I made was on th fact that I was a national delegate, and I was on the convention floor in 1988 and I did experience directly what happens when many supporters abandoned a nominee when their candidate as the number two vote getter was not selected. The 1988 Jesse Jackson, Sr factor (whether you liie Jackson or not) did play a role in the Dukakis collapse. And whether you like Jackson or not, he WAS WAS WAS the number two vote getter behind Dukakis in 1988. So the fact remains is will Clinton supporters abandone Obama the way Jackson supporters abandoned Dukakis. If we have not learbed any lessons in 20 years then so be it, but don;t bring your compaint back here when a President McCain keeps in Irq for another 100 years !

My comments I made was on th fact that I was a national delegate, and I was on the convention floor in 1988 and I did experience directly what happens when many supporters abandoned a nominee when their candidate as the number two vote getter was not selected. The 1988 Jesse Jackson, Sr factor (whether you liie Jackson or not) did play a role in the Dukakis collapse. And whether you like Jackson or not, he WAS WAS WAS the number two vote getter behind Dukakis in 1988. So the fact remains is will Clinton supporters abandone Obama the way Jackson supporters abandoned Dukakis. If we have not learbed any lessons in 20 years then so be it, but don;t bring your compaint back here when a President McCain keeps in Irq for another 100 years !

a really stupid move to abondon Clinton and choose some white male to run with. with her warts stretch marks and cellulite i still like clinton. I think she would have made a greater contribution not just in terms of vote. She has such a fighting spirit. And had she won, I think she would have chosen Obama to run with. What a morally corrupt move. Clinton deserved to be chosen. She worked hard for it.

I have a little respect for Hillary but let's face it, she ran a lousy campaign. A national newspaper call the Alantic backed up. At the Huff Post, they had the article and detail why and how she lost the primaries. How can a person who can't run her own campaign run the country?

I have never seen such sour grapes in all my life. I just wish the Clintonites could just take a moment and see the big picture. Look at what is at stake in this election!! Where do I start? We all know about the economy, the wars, the health care crisis, failing public schools, etc.. But what about the Supreme Court!! Are the feminists, the PUMA's, and other hard line Clintonistas actually willing to see Roe v. Wade overturned? George Bush has already appointed 2 justices, including the Chief. The next President will likely appoint at least 2 more justices, basically setting the course of the High Court FOR A GENERATION. This alone should make these people get a grip. If I hear one more elected Democrat (like Loretta Sanchez) say that they haven't lined up behind their nominee because he hasn't called him/her personally to ask for their support, I don't know what I will do. Really, the man is in the fight of his life!! Do they really expect him to sit down with a call list and make individual phone calls to every Clinton supporter in the House or Senate. This is ridiculous, and they know it. These people are being childish and churlish because they want him to lose, thinking that Clinton will then get another shot in 2012. This is a mistake of historical proportions. I'll tell you why in my next post.

Hillary and Bill need to be more gracious and set aside their wounded pride and put the country and the Democratic party first. If they REALLY wanted their supporters to genuinely support the Democratic nominee, they could make it happen. Hillary should do it, if for no other reason, for her own political future. She should think ahead. If she thinks that she can knife Obama this year and not face any political consequences, then she had better think again. Does she think she can EVER win another election without the Black vote? I think not. And yes, that includes the U.S. Senate race in New York. If she thinks she can just selfishly sink the chances of the Democratic nominee is this critical election, so that she can run again in 2012, in a time when this country is teetering on the brink of becoming an also ran former superpower, then she is beneath contempt and history will not judge her kindly. We cannot afford 4 more years of Republican ineptitude and saber-rattling. Clintonistas, can you just grow up please. (And I don't say this in a mean-spirited way.) Think about your children and future generations, for chrissakes!!

Truthy, what the hell are you talking about?!!! The woman stood on NATIONAL TELEVISION and told all of her supporters that they MUST join her in backing Barack Obama as the next President of the United States!!! Did those very words not come out of her mouth over and over during her concession speech?! And has she not continued to say that since?! So, what else is she supposed to do?! My God, you people are so stupid! You have bought into this whole warped notion that she is somehow "holding" her supporters hostage! And that's just BULL! And some Democrats and many media outlets are the main ones fueling this ridiculous notion because they know if Obama loses in Nov they can blame the Clintons. And that is just total bull! Hillary conceded on June 5th and since then Obama's numbers have slowly started to slip in the polls. Why? Maybe perhaps he is running a crappy campagin?! Maybe some of the "magic" has started to fade?! Or maybe, just maybe people are starting to see him for what he truly is -- a man of all flash and no substance?! But, yet it is still somehow Hillary's fault. And she's bitter and her supporters need to get a grip. No, maybe all of these died-hard Obama supporters need to realize that he's not all he's cracked up to be and this is not going to be the cake-walk that many of you thought. He has been running a terrible campaign all summer and Hillary has nothing to do with that. Sorry, this one's all on him!

However, Truthy, I do agree with you that if McCain wins Roe v Wade is gone! And I also agree that we all must look at the bigger picture. But I am so sick of hearing all of these Obama supporters constantly bash and blame Clinton for everything gone wrong. There is no passionate, dedicated Democrat than she. Yes, she lost fair and square and you haven't heard one complaint from her. Yet, still she continues to stay a hot topic in this election! Why? You don't hear crap about Huckabee or Romney and if this Edwards scandal hadn't broke you wouldn't have heard from him either! And with everything Obama has done and trying to do, it keeps going back to Clinton and many of her 18 million who not running to Obama! That's their choice. So, Obama supporters maybe you should grow-up and stop whining and focus on your guy! He's going to need you.

Clinton was the first black president LOL

JC, Obama is the nominee. I think we sometimes forget this. The latest news today in the ongoing Clinton psychodrama is that Bill is not happy with his speaking assignment at the convention. This weekend they complained that Hillary was not vetted for VP. What more do they want? Obama has bent over backwards to try to accomodate the Clintons. There is the roll call, they added special planks in the platform praising Hill, who has a plum speaking slot in Denver. Chelsea will even have her moment in prime time introducing her mom. I don't want to get into an infantile back and forth. That is not my goal. There is too much at stake. Can we just move on and win this thing?

Truthy, my sentiments exactly. So please, stop with all the Clinton nonsense. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't! And most of that came right out of the media. These news shows want to create a story that just doesn't exist because it gives them something to talk about. Meanwhile Obama is totally off message, his campaign has gone drastically negative and he's sinking in the polls. That should be the focus instead of how Bill feels and what Hillary wants and where Chelsea will be. LEAVE THEM ALONE! Like you said, Obama is the nominee...

JC. It seems great minds think alike. I wish all Democrats, and really all Americans who want to see this nation rise to its former glory, could come to one accord and get behind Obama and Biden. One difference of opinion though: I think Obama must fight fire with fire. The only way he can win is to counter the Republican negative attacks. Unfortunately, that is the nature of the beast.

JC, one last thing: Obama is sinking in the polls because the Republicans are tearing him limb from limb with their negative ads! And also because of Democratic disunity. Just imagine if Obama had lost, and he and his supporters were behaving as the Clintonistas. I think Clinton needs to run a rebuttal ad, countering the Republican ads using her words to stoke the fires of Democratic discontent. Given her leftover campaign debt, she could do it on the cheap. She could release it on her website and the media would run it like an endless loop. Now, that would convince me, and hopefully the Clintonistas, that she seriously wants Obama to win. Hopefully, she would not refer to him as "my opponent" as she has been doing in recent public appearances before her loyalists.

JC: Better yet, the Obama campaign could pay for the Clinton rebuttal ad.

JC, you seem to be advocating against the same thing you are perpetuating on this board--buying into media hype. It's not the media's hype that Bill Clinton can't say that Obama is qualified to be president. It is not the media who forced Howard Wolfson to say that Bill is still fuming over the primary. It is not the media who forces Hellarites in interviews to proclaim that they do not support Obama's candidacy. It is not the media that forces ex-Clinton supporters to say that they are voting for McCain.

Had the Clintons conducted themselves in a manner befitting an ex-president and first lady we may not be in this situation. They behaved like childish rogues who were unsatisfied with the new direction the country was begging for. That is a Clinton problem--not an Obama one. Hillary and her angry, dismissive husband are part of the problem--definitely not the solution.

MidwestGuy, I'll get to you in a minute... First, Truthy. I like you because you make sense. And you understand the bigger picture that WE NEED TO WIN THIS. Period! We both see that clear as day. However, I disagree that Obama has to go negative to fight McCain because it plays right into their hands. It contradicts everything that Obama stood for in the beginning. He presented himself as a "different" kind of politician who was above the pettiness and dirty political tricks. He was all about hope, positivity and CHANGE. He sold America on that idea and used that as the very foundation of his entire campaign. So, no matter what the GOP throws his way, he MUST stay above that and keep enforcing his message. But how can he promote change and hope while going tit-for-tat about how many houses a man owns?! It makes Obama look like a hyprocrite and the same old politician that he claims he's not. That's my issue with him. Now, MidwestGuy... Don't you realize that every second you spend talking about The Clintons you lose enforcing Obama's message? That's what it should be about and nothing else. But instead of going that route, you and so many other Obama supporters go on this rant about the Clintons -- they're angry, they're pety, they're childish -- blah! blah! blah! blah! blah!!! And you are so wrong, if you don't believe for one second that the media is not (to a large degree) responsible for much (but not all) of this. No, the press has not forced Clinton supporters to say will not support Obama in interviews -- but they do control which interviews are shown. If 3 out of 10 Clinton supporters interviewed say they will not support Obama, another 3 of the 10 say they will support Obama and the remaining 4 are undecided -- who do you think will get the most airtime? Probably the 3 who will not support Obama and why? Because that's a story they can sell! "CLINTON'S SUPPORTERS BASH OBAMA!!!" Come on, MidwestGuy. Open your eyes, man. It is not about The Clintons. But as long as you keep talking about them, you will keep them involved. And that's the problem -- not the solution.

JC, thanks for your kind words. I still strongly advocate Barack countering the negative attacks. He doesn't have to PERSONALLY get down in the mud, but he must have spokespeople who can counter punch with the GOP operatives. And he must launch a SUSTAINED harsh, but classy ad campaign. He must knock McCain off that POW perch. Why? Because IT WORKS. He should have done it sooner. If he had, he would be up by 10-12 points now. America likes a fighter. They WANT him to hit back. Just like Americans understood when he reversed course on public financing, they will understand when he chooses to win this WAR. I say he should GO NUCLEAR...

And meanwhile, JC, Obama should stay on message on the stump. When questions come up about him going negative, he should answer that the American people can count on him to always fight for them, when it is justified. He will be fighting for the good of the country! Then he should move on and talk about McCain's plan to privatize social security or to reinstate the draft. Is he supposed to just stand there and let the GOP knock him out? I DON'T THINK SO...Do you think Hillary wouldn't go negative, had she won?

Purl Gurl welcome back. I know you have missed us. I see now and know what was only intimated in the past. From your postings it appears that do not care about the poor and the impoverished but only about a single issue: everything anti-Black, anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian and anti- Male agenda. So go fourth with your support for McCain and when he disappoints you and your nephews, nieces and family are homeless and broke. Be happy and proud, for you would have succeeded in getting your way but at such a high and great price.

Oh yes, Truthy! Hillary would have most definitely gone negative and went for McCain's balls with no hesitation! BUT she's always been that way. She came out swinging -- even as First Lady, so there was never any pretense. That's part of my problem with all of these people who started bashing her during the primaries. She's always been tough, she's always been a fighter, fiesty, and( what many preceived as) a b****! And we all loved and respected her for that! But when it became a race between her and the beloved Barack, somehow she was viewed as this heinous, polorizing monster who was destroying the party, when actually she was being the same HRC she always was... But when Barack first presented himself to America, he came with the pretense that we was a different kind of politician. Too smart, too cool, and too focused to play those silly political games. And we bought into that and based many of our opinions and feelings on the image that he gave us. Which is (in my opinion) why I think many turned on Clinton. She was the mean old white lady picking on the good black prince. Barack knew that and played the part perfectly. He stayed above many of her attacks, continued to hammer his message of "change" into the American psyche and allowed her to seal her own fate. It's the smartest defense -- allow your opponent to destroy themself. That's why he got the nod and she didn't. Now this time around, he has gotten right in the mud with McCain and it's making him look just as pety and foolish. Yes, he can fight back -- hell, he'd better. But I believe the way he is doing it is hurting the sterling image that he portrayed in the beginning and that is why his poll numbers are slipping. Yes, America loves a fighter. But we hate a hypocrite. He needs to get back to his message and get back on track to the style of campaigning and image that many first fell in love with. Otherwise, he's gonna lose.

JC, America may hate hypocrites, but they hate losers even more. Believe that! Obama can maintain his idealistic political style, up to a point. He still needs to lob red meat bombs at McCain during EVERY stump speech...along with a non-stop campaign of attack/issue ads. That is what holds the media's attention and garners air time. Like it or not, that is how the GOP has been dominating the campaign AND the airwaves for the past few weeks. And for the record, if Hillary had gone sharply negative from the very beginning, she may very well have won the nomination. I bet that is one of the major regrets that Bill spoke of so wistfully a couple of weeks ago.

JC, I do not have to reinforce Obama's message because I am not campaigning for office. Based on your earlier posts, you seem to be advocating a republican/clinton/anti-obama message. So you may not be the appropriate vehicle for having a positive message. I can continue to talk about the Clintons because I am seeing the results of their slash and burn politics. I am able to think for myself (unlike the clinton dogs) and place blame where I think appropriate. I do not have to be politically correct. I can state my opinion just as you have.

I 100% believe the media shares the blame in how this division between the camps is being played out. They also share the blame for those who share your negative thoughts about Obama. That sword of media culpability cuts both ways. Don't decry talking "bad about dem clintons" and turn around and then talk bad about Obama.

I'm in agreement with most of the folks about Joe Biden. He's a lousy choice and will doom the democrats in November. My pick would've been Kuchinich.

Midwestguy, I won't waste my time, energy, or space on this forum going back and forth with you. It's obvious you are someone who is extremely narrow minded and cannot think for yourself. You win. Consider this my concession.

As a Obama supporter, I am starting to think he may have made the wrong choice in his VP. Hillary Clinton rocked that convention tonight! Hands down!

Midwest Guy you don't need my support, but you said it with your last post. I feel that a number of the people on this post come across as extremely negative. It's o.k. to have your invidual choices, but the venom that comes with some of these folks words is very scary indeed in a so called enlightened 2008 society/culture. Anyway, the rest of us will continue to move forward with a positive agenda and let these people just hate everything right or wrong.

The statistics are astonishing, the stakes are generally substantial, it truly is tricky to discuss and even more complicated to deal with it. Technologies, therapy, communication... they all compete with human nature. Plus each and every situation is different.