People kill people, and guns make it easier for them

Random samplings from hundreds of thousands of news stories like these.

"A Tonto Basin man was pronounced dead...'Apparently Edward Palmer was under the influence of alcohol and other unknown substances,' said Detective Brian Havey of the Gila County Sheriff's Office. '(Palmer) attacked John Valdez of Tonto Basin in his own residence'...being assaulted by Palmer, Valdez armed himself with a .22-caliber rifle...."
- Richard Haddad

"An intruder was shot twice after he climbed through a window in a mobile home and was met by an angry resident early Wednesday morning, Anchorage police said...."
- Megan Hollan

"A White River Township man shot at a prowler who attacked him at his home early Wednesday, according to police reports."
- Jason Michael White

"A 79-year-old man armed with a .357 magnum revolver shot two men after they broke into his home overnight...."
- Bina Roy

"The Police Department determined the first homicide in the city this year was an act of self-defense...The man [victim] had wounds consistent with being hit over the head with a hammer...."
- Rachel McCormick

"...police said a man and young woman -- possibly father and daughter, according to neighbors -- were sleeping inside the home when an intruder came in and startled them. The man took protective action and shot the intruder twice, striking him once in the face."
- NBC News

"Police say Brian Dalton Rivenbark is dead after trying to hold up Jerry's Furniture Refinishing...Rivenbark and White walked into the store and pulled out a hand gun. The store clerk, Joseph Daggs, III had his own gun."
- NBC News "A 53-year-old San Bernardino homeowner, fearful that he was dealing with a dangerous burglar, was legally justified in killing a drunken man during a 3 a.m. confrontation...."
- Richard Brooks

"Police said the family of four was asleep at the time...That man grabbed his shotgun and waited near his bedroom door...When the bedroom door swung open, the man said he saw a man with a gun. That's when he opened fire...That suspect died on the scene. Police did find a gun near him."
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Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

Use of guns for self-defense: 2.5 million incidents per year, 7 thousand incidents per day.

Source: Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun," The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

Before you belittle the death of Eve Carson may I suggest that you get out of your liberal limo and find out that this was truely a loss for society; white, black or brown. Unlike you this young person did not have a racist bone in her body and was on her way to making significant contributions to the betterment of life. Your comments show you for the racist that you are.

The ones who scream they are not racist, are in 9 times out of 10, the biggest ones and everyone in the world knows that. I don't think guns should be banned, although why someone needs AK 46's or 100 guns in one house is just weird and there is nothing wrong with controls on weapons, although the so called NRA folks want anyone to have them and as many as they can afford. And decent, law abiding citzens would have no problem with gun locks or gun safes, but, the NRA and the gun nuts are not for that at all. Also, I do think that the lax controls on the books now will only have more people die with the activist ruling by the right wing faction of the GOP, sorry, Supreme Court and the twisted minds of those who never feel the pain of the victims.

You are right!, guns make it easier to kill people: Like murderers, rapists, scumbag felons in the commission of a crime, violent wackjobs, drugged out lowlifes. yes it is easier to KILL( read=Protect) If you are worried about the "disadvantaged" being the victims of gun violence, TOUGH, they are the ones I listed above. You want to blame society for the irresponsiblity of an entire sector of our society who has only to take the opprtunity given to EVERY American who WANTS to be something and not be handed everything like they are owed it. Come in my neighborhood and act the fool... they have a lot of toe tags at county medical. That girl was more valuable, she tried to succeed, not take from others.

Dean comments, "Come in my neighborhood and act the fool... they have a lot of toe tags at county medical."

Here is an interesting case which has left liberal thug huggers ready to shoot to kill.

Over in Texas, a state dear to my heart, Joe Horn witnesses two men breaking into his neighbor's home. Joe calls police, reports events, describes the criminals as black. Before police can arrive Joe advises the 9-1-1 operator the two are making good their escape and he will not allow the criminals to get away, not allow them to escape.

Turns out neither of the thugs are black rather are illegals from Columbia, one with a history of deportation for drug trafficking. Mug shots of both criminals, noting these are past mug shots of both which is evidence of prior police arrest, mug shots portray men who look typical black street thugs, much like seen on television. Joe described the criminals correctly for the police dispatcher; they appear to be black.

Here is the controversy. Joe Horn is 9-1-1 recorded saying, "I'm not going to let them get away with it. I'm going to shoot. I'm going to kill them." Clearly Joe Horn is a truthful man.

Joe, still on the line and recorded, goes out and confronts the two thugs, yells at them to "freeze" which they do not, so Joe blasts both in their backs as they run away. Both criminals are killed.

Incidental, one of the thugs is armed with a tire iron. Joe Horn is an elderly man.

Black activists become involved and contend Joe is a racist because both criminals are black. Reality is neither criminal is black rather mimic the look of black street gang members. Never mind these two are criminals caught in the act, they are black and should not be shot.

Message of those black activists is, "Blacks should be able to commit crimes without risk of being shot."

Criminals should excused from consequences of committing crime based on skin color?

Why only blacks? Should not white, red, brown, yellow, any color of criminal be free to commit crime without risk of being shot? No, sir, all criminals, regardless of skin color, clearly caught in the act committing serious felony crimes should be shot.

So, Joe Horn is hauled before a grand jury for possible indictment for murder. This Texas grand jury returns with, "Shove it. Joe Horn is a hero."

This is true Texas style justice. Hurrah for Texas!

This is a case of two men breaking into a neighbor's home, burglarizing this home, climbing out a window with sacks of loot, being confronted by a neighbor, told to freeze until police arrive, then attempt to make good their escape, are shot to death, all recorded on 9-1-1 tape.

Joe Horn should be given a citizen's medal for bravery.

I do not care Joe shot both in their backs, nor in their fronts. I do not care if Joe used a garden hoe to chop off their genitalia nor care if Joe choked both to death by stuffing their mouths full of cold mash potatoes. Joe did what is right.

America needs more neighbors like Joe Horn. Hurrah for Texas cowboy Joe Horn!

"He needed killing." - Oklahoma Justice

Wain Bennett, you are a thug hugger. You would have us disarmed and at the mercy of criminals.

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

you are a misguided, ill-informed, uneducated idiot.

Dean, did you read the same article I did? I didn't see the author reference the disadvantaged nor those who want a handout from the government. What the FK are you talking about crazy ass?

Eve Carson was covered in the media because she held the highest elected position of a student body of 30,000. When it's NOT news that a student body president of a major university is kidnapped, robbed, and shot in the face, the terrorists have won. If she'd been Asian, Indian, or Black, or male, or a B student, or not as vulnerable looking, her death would have gotten the same coverage. Maybe not if she'd had a background doing drugs, shoplifting, and skipping classes. But Eve worked hard to make something of herself, was friendly to everyone, and helped the disadvantaged. Those idiots who stold her life stold something from us all. No guns to idiots! Canada doesn't have this problem. The 2nd amendment is out of date, created when colonists didn't want to be disarmed against native Americans and the British.