T.D. Jakes speaks out on Jeremiah Wright

T.D. Jakes is a homophobe and an economic whore who uses his so-called "relationship with God" to stick his parishioner for their paper so that he can amass obscene amounts of wealth. It kills me when these pastors say they're following in Jesus' footsteps. Oh yeah? Well Jesus was a carpenter who preached the gospel for free. Free isn't in their vocabulary, though. They refuse to give up the floss--not even for Jehovah.

NON-BLACK VOTERS ARE SICK OF EVERY BLACK POLITICAN/SO-CALLED RACIST PREACHERS DEFENDING THE RACIST OBAMA AND WRIGHT. THE MEDIA CAN TOUT ALL THE BOGUS LIES THEY WANT...ITS VOTERS WHO MAKE THE DECISION AND WE ARE MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU GIVE CREDIT! OBAMA IS NOT WRIGHT TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM!!!! Democrats NEED Clinton to stay in the race. OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTION. “Obama marched with Farrakhan”Obama's Pastor Slurs Italians in Latest Magazine (CNSNews.com) Wright continues his Obama supported attacks on non-blacks now slurring Italians in issue of Trumpet Newsmag. Wright states, Jesus enemies had their opinion, Italians looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans, and Jesus death on a cross was a public lynching Italian style! This government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the KKKlan of white supremacy who is clearly in charge. Every issue published Wright's rant against white people in which he covers a world that is controlled by white supremacy, a country that’s on its way to hell in a hand basket because of lying politicians, in a culture that still thinks 'white is right! He said young African-American Christians are more concerned about 'bling bling' than about freeing their minds and still Obama says I could no more disown him than I could disown the black community. According to his federal income tax return for 2006, Obama gave the Trinity United church $22,500 in contributions. Trumpet Newsmagazine started 80s, Wright is CEO and Wright's daughter, Jeri Wright, is the publisher. Requests for comments Obama camp of course not answered. Trumpet Nov/Dec edition, featured Louis Farrakhan, recipient of the Lifetime Achievement "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter" award. Farrakhan has called Judaism a "gutter religion" and said Jews are "bloodsuckers. Many of the biased cable news pundits try to make viewers believe Obama's speech limited damage of Wright controversy, but the general election will show voters strongly disagree, especially non-black voters. Obama refuses to explain to the public why he would have someone as such a close spiritual advisor and mentor and why he would expose two young daughters to such hatefulness against fellow Americans. The problem Wright's comments are not theological views, but political statements. This is a serious issue for Obama in general election. As with each new utterance on the topic of Reverend Wright, Barack Obama confirms his own moral obliviousness and he seems to have disdain for those who are troubled by his own unwillingness to break with Wright, even worse Obama still insists Wright is a brilliant man, So brilliant, apparently, that he has uncovered the plot by white America to kill African Americans, so insightful to perceive the 9/11 attacks caused by American terrorism and his discerning observation Israel is a “dirty” word, and still in Obama’s eyes, Wright is brilliant. This, we are told by biased cable news pundits like CNN Obamaphiles, is not supposed to affect voters’ view of Obama’s judgment. Perhaps voters are embarrassed to tell pollsters they are privately offended. General election Republicans as well as independents and democrats are irked by this moral obtuseness even though media like CNN or Hardball cover it up with bogus Clinton attacks.

Don't worry Jose. Hillary ass ain't going nowhere. Why? Because we BLACK VOTERS Will NOT vote for her ass. And she won't win. TRUST THAT! BLACKS ARE EDUCATED ALSO! YOU'LL SEE AMIGO!

it is sad to see such hateful, uneducated postings. this is not helpful to anyone and I believe that those who write these hateful things are slowly dying inside.

Just for background sake, I am a New Englander who grew up with very little diverstity, and myself and most people I knew were of European ancestry. But as I have lived in different parts of the country and have seen segregated neighborhoods, churches, and community centers. I know that there is still a divide in this country, and that there is pain on both sides and I agree with TD Jakes on this one. It is good that people are talking, although mostly against each other, but still within the same sphere. The figureheads of the communities hopefully are trying to understand why the other side would feel the way they do, and it is my hope that from this there will be some clarification on the positions of either side. I also like how TD Jakes mentions that the African American community is not monolithic and that every African American does not agree with Wright or with Jakes or with any figurehead. That's because they are just figureheads who represent a diverse community full of diverse opinions and constructs of the past, how to interpret it, and how to move forward. I am convinced that the way to progress must be forged together, and that these divisions and painful feelings must be dealt with as they are being exposed now. The pain we are feeling is good, because it has been bottled up so many times before, and we cannot let it linger anymore. It is too painful for the heart of the community. Though I wholeheartedly disagree with Wright, I understand the conditions that have produced him and his remarks during heated and passionate sermons. But not every Pastor is like Wright, and not every lay person even under his preaching agrees with him - that is evident in Obama's distance as this whole situation comes to light. I only hope that both sides are listening to the other, and that from this the divide will become a bit smaller.

"Thank God we can all think for ourselves!" So with that I say. 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and everything else will be added.' Be blessed, we ARE all entitled to our opinions.

The post on this board represents the worst that we are as a country. I don't agree with TD Jakes doctrinally. I am not one of his followers due to the above mentioned reasons. There is alot of truth to what he said about how sickening this whole issue is with J Wright. People are not recognising that there are death threats made on this mans life due to him showing a mirror to America. IMO, the death threats are not representation of white people as a whole. They do represent how white supremacy is still upheld in our great nation. Something that way too many whites are not wanting to see.

I, for one, am not drinking the Obama Kool-Aid. One does not even need to read between the lines regarding Obama, but simply read the lines. He is a man who does not like America. It is obvious. Even his wife said she has never been proud of America until now. The church that Obama has been attending for 20 years pledges their allegiance to AFRICA, not America. Read if for yourself at their website. Besides the fact that Obama has no experience, and has voted "present" as a Illinois senator over 200 times, instead of voting "yes" or "no", and I think we have a sinister man trying to ruin our country. The terrorist are celebrating, and thinking what fools we are to be on the band wagon of Barack Hussein Obama.

If Reverend Wright is loses his life for his religious beliefs, is not his reward in heaven great?

If Reverend Wright is loses his life for his religious beliefs, is not his reward in heaven great?

Seems strange to me to give 10% to a man like Jakes, when I have trouble buying gas.He has a driver, a big fancy car, A MANSION!!!!. Shouldn't he be giving the poor people 10%!!!!! I'm confused, Jesus gave the money-changers a bit of trouble didn't he?

Dannonhill, thanks for your insight. :-) I do have a question for you though. You say that you wholeheartedly disagree with Wright.( I've heard this from a lot of people on the web since this whole thing begun.)Tell me, is it the tone in which Rev. Wright gives his sermons, or is it the message in the sermons that bother you? Most black ministers I've heard in my life time preach with a passion in that style. Of the Wright snippets played in the media, I have only heard two of the sermons in their entirety (Chickens coming home to roost and the God d*mned one, lol) and although I think the Rev. could have used better judgement when using the God d*mn word to describe God's wrath, I thought both sermons weren't far from the truth and gives you something to think about. I mean, really. What the media has been playing are snippets of a whole sermon and you cannot make a fair judgement IMO based on those.. You have to hear the full sermon. After I listened to them for the first time, I felt really bad because I felt I owed the Pastor an apology. I was actually crying at the end. Take a listen or look and then make your decision. Oh and the Rev. Wright was actually quoting a white man when he made the statements America's chickens are coming home to roost. Check it out. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/meet-the-white-man-who-_n_92793.html The God D*amn America speech (audio) It's long, but worth it. http://odeo.com/audio/17890793/view

SonOfBalwin, I agree with you 100% about T.D. Jakes! Also, T.D. Jakes has been in bed with George W. Bush for a long time. He was one of the main ones DEFENDING Bush's treatment of the Katrina victims. I don't trust T.D. Jakes as far as I can throw him!

I grew up in a small town in central Alabama. I am white. I have seen racism at its core. I spent 8 years in the military. With that said, I would like to get the floor for a moment. I have said for many years now that the only way to defuse the racial tensions that exist is to educated everyone. When a person is put among other races for any length of time they will notice that the other race has a different culture from their own, but they are just as human as every other race. I truly believe in equality for everyone. Concerning,......Obama & Wright. Any politician can make a good speech. That is what they do to get your vote; they talk. Lets trim all the fat from the issue and get to the bone of it all. Obama said he has been an active member of this church for 20 years. Therefore, he knew the sermons Mr. Wright was preaching. Being that he didn't leave this church tells me that he, at minimum, believes the rhetoric this man is preaching. That is not O.K. with me! Every politician lies. For that matter, everyone on this planet lies. Therefore, I will disregard the fact that he openly lied about not ever hearing these kinds of comments for the past 20 years in this church. My problems lyes with him stumping on change and unity. He has not one time told us what he is going to change. Change can be good or bad. He is not letting us know which change he intends to make. That makes me weary of voting for him. There are too many inconsistencies with Senator Obama. The fact is, racism will always be in the world in one form or another. However, we can regulate it by our actions. WE THE PEOPLE have the power in this country. Use it wisely. After all, we vote these individuals into office to be our voice and speak for us. Do something significant today! Try to treat everyone with respect and dignity. It is contagious! May God Bless our Country, Troops, and Citizens.

For it is written: Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 1Th 3:7 Therefore, brothers, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. Hbr 10:33 Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. Rev 2:10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life. Psa 105:15 [Saying], Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. Luk 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

I am white, Italian American, and a Hillary supporter. I don't feel any outrage against Rev. Wright, even though I disagree with many of the soundbites ripped from some of his now infamous sermons. As a 60s "radical" I attended many demonstrations in cooperation with the Black Panthers, the largest of which was a weekend at Yale University, of which the Panthers' theme was "Human Rights, Not Violence". They had to keep reminding all the demonstrators, including all of us white students, not to erupt into a violent display of the anger which was palpable at that time among the disenfranchised; i.e. blacks and other minorities, women, pacifists, gays, et al. At this point, most of us had been gassed, beaten, and arrested. Some Panthers and 4 students (at Kent State) had been killed. An illegal and very costly (40,000 Americans dead) war was still being waged in Southeast Asia. Poor minorities, mostly African Americans, were serving as cannon fodder with their mortality rates far exceeding the 12% of the US population which is African American. The South was still being desegregated, gay-bashing and racial confrontations were still common. Those of us in the movement were almost constantly seething with anger. In 1968, five years after JFK's assassination, both RFK and MLK were murdered. To get an idea of how blacks were still treated in many areas of the country, read "Black Like Me", or Eldridge Cleaver's "Soul On Ice". To this day, a recent (2004) survey in the French Quarter New Orleans revealed that 57% of the nightclubs that were visited by a "secret shopper", enlisted by the city, practiced discriminatory policies towards blacks. As an Italian American I was embarrassed by the older generation, some of whom used the term "mazza Cristo" (Christ killers) to refer to Jews; and moulignon' to refer to blacks. While I was outraged by such a racist terms, I didn't disown older family members who used them. Maybe it's a situation where "you had to be there" in order to understand the anger and frustration. Senator Obama appears to be a "ticket to ride" away from these old divisions. Perhaps we will even find a way to understand the hatred of our great country by the fundamentalist, militant Muslims, and so begin to try to heal the rift. I don't have all the answers, but I think we should start with a progressive White House and Congress, led by Obama or Clinton. Perhaps I should mention that I am also an atheist. I am constantly alarmed at the hatred and hypocrisy I hear from the religious right. Many of these homophobic, racists are well-known leaders of very large congregations. We have a lot of work to do and we can't afford to be distracted by hatred and acrimony between different groups here at home.

I am white, Italian American, and a Hillary supporter. I don't feel any outrage against Rev. Wright, even though I disagree with many of the soundbites ripped from some of his now infamous sermons. As a 60s "radical" I attended many demonstrations in cooperation with the Black Panthers, the largest of which was a weekend at Yale University, of which the Panthers' theme was "Human Rights, Not Violence". They had to keep reminding all the demonstrators, including all of us white students, not to erupt into a violent display of the anger which was palpable at that time among the disenfranchised; i.e. blacks and other minorities, women, pacifists, gays, et al. At this point, most of us had been gassed, beaten, and arrested. Some Panthers and 4 students (at Kent State) had been killed. An illegal and very costly (40,000 Americans dead) war was still being waged in Southeast Asia. Poor minorities, mostly African Americans, were serving as cannon fodder with their mortality rates far exceeding the 12% of the US population which is African American. The South was still being desegregated, gay-bashing and racial confrontations were still common. Those of us in the movement were almost constantly seething with anger. In 1968, five years after JFK's assassination, both RFK and MLK were murdered. To get an idea of how blacks were still treated in many areas of the country, read "Black Like Me", or Eldridge Cleaver's "Soul On Ice". To this day, a recent (2004) survey in the French Quarter New Orleans revealed that 57% of the nightclubs that were visited by a "secret shopper", enlisted by the city, practiced discriminatory policies towards blacks. As an Italian American I was embarrassed by the older generation, some of whom used the term "mazza Cristo" (Christ killers) to refer to Jews; and moulignon' to refer to blacks. While I was outraged by such a racist terms, I didn't disown older family members who used them. Maybe it's a situation where "you had to be there" in order to understand the anger and frustration. Senator Obama appears to be a "ticket to ride" away from these old divisions. Perhaps we will even find a way to understand the hatred of our great country by the fundamentalist, militant Muslims, and so begin to try to heal the rift. I don't have all the answers, but I think we should start with a progressive White House and Congress, led by Obama or Clinton. Perhaps I should mention that I am also an atheist. I am constantly alarmed at the hatred and hypocrisy I hear from the religious right. Many of these homophobic, racists are well-known leaders of very large congregations. We have a lot of work to do and we can't afford to be distracted by hatred and acrimony between different groups here at home.

It is beyond belief why people complain about the personal freedoms we ALL enjoy as Americans. The federal government does not legislate personal choices. Children are taught by their caregiver very early in life by example. When a child sees and hears their caregiver/parent(s) consistently display criminal, negative, or socially ugly behavior then THAT IS WHAT THE CHILD(REN) WILL DO. Look at history. A Christian church should be a peaceful place where the heart and mind opens to listen and hear messages about embracing faith in God.It's a place where the Holy Scriptures are studied and learned. When a child sees and hears a church minister jumping about the pulpit screaming and damning well then, that is what the child will do the other six days of the week. Church should not be a place where we children hear messages from false witnesses sowing discord. Apparently Rev. Wright is a damaged soul who is leading his flock down the "wide road" of anger, unhappiness and discord. He should NEVER be considered a "mentor" because his behavior is unhealthy. I don't know Obamas' heart but what about his mind?

Hey Lorane, Thank you for asking the question and I'll try and answer it because I've listened to Wright's sermon and like many ministers there is that which I agree with and that which I don't. I agree that there is still great injustice in the world and that we need to work things out in manytimes painful and jabbing converstations that break the hearts and tax the mind of those involved. That is why I am not upset that Wright has brought his words to the spotlight (Personally, I think that the Media in general is sensationalistic and I become angry each evening watching the news and the rediculous things that get coverage when other REAL things are going on that deserve daily light...Wright is a victim of the soundbite sensationalism, but bears some responsibility for it too, otherwise why would he add those colorful images that tend to bite at those it is aimed to change). Here is my struggle (it is not clean, it is my wrestling and trying to grasp both sides without compromising either side...it is not perfect, it is just yearning for the truth through my own experience and in my relationship and learning of God): My biggest disagreement with Wright is not with his crusade against past and present injustices (which he has a mandate to prophetically preach against in scripture: Isaiah), it is rather in the perpetuation of the pendulum that villainizes the perceived opposition, and objectivizes the "Other" in the conversation and in effect, dehumanizes that "Other". This allows for a direction of anger against that Other side, creating a pendulum effect, a flow of force the same as what was dealt to them in the first place. For those who have been offended against, we will now take up the rod and offend against them in return. Though this is not explicitly part of Wright's message, it is part of the subcontext - a slight motion to despise the system and those working it and asking for the frustrated to abandon the Powers that be, leaving the currupt to continue in their curruption and the good to leave in exodus. Perhaps that is the point, and maybe that is a good point, but even Jesus had compassion on the people of Jerusalem even in the time of their wickedness, and I wonder if there is enough of a remnant of good people among us Anglos and our Western system for it to be salvagable rather than to have everything thrown out. This is part of my fear, though I realize that Change and Loss and Suffering can be good if it accomplishes the good and brings about good in people and people see that God will be the Almighty Judge who brings the mighty low and elevates the weak and needy. Imposed Suffering shows its true evil when it dehumanizes and diminishes the imago dei of the people it crushes, but again - God abhors and will destroy all the structures of those who have wicked hearts. How much should our hands bring about the plan of God? It seems as if Wright wishes the people of God to take up God's power and bring it about themselves. Is this a bad assumption? Did I read too much? Did Jesus say much about the government other than to give what is Caesar's to Caesar? Did Paul say much other than to submit when the laws are not contradicting God's laws? This is why this conversation is good. It peels off those temporary bandaids with a yelp, and everyone is forced to deal with the bleeding that has never truly healed.

It's Intersesting Think of Your mouth as a check book. And Your heart as the Bank. Many whites have wrote the check of Im not a racist, and some of my best friends are black for years. Claims that have become so familiar no one even challanges the claim, "check". But with this election, a raw nerve has been touched becuase some whites have been telling the truth, and have funds in the "bank" of their hearts to cover what theyve been saying. However others would like to keep this subjuect diverted to any and everything else. To keep them from being exposed. And the whole world seeing their check bounce all the way accross the street.

Please STOP talking about racism. I am sick and tired of all the victimization in America. I am Hispanic, but mainly I am an American. Nowadays, everybody wants to become a stupid victim: they cry “Blacks were slaves,” “Women were abused,” and now even the “angry white man claims he is getting reversed discrimination.” Please GIVE ME A MASSIVE BREAK. This is exactly why I am proudly a Republican. The stupid Democrats assume that every Hispanic is one of them. What an insult! The Democrats offer a “special education program” for idiots called “affirmative action,” so that later on they can pinpoint (like Ferraro) that minorities are mentally inferior so they need extra points of entrance exams. Please! Stop all the crying. This is the GREATEST Nation upon the face of the earth. America the beautiful! The home of the brave and the free… So what! if anybody wants to express racism. Let them say whatever is in their mind! We have the freedom of speech. If you want to see real racism, please take a trip to Cuba or Nicaragua.

I don't blame the Rev. Mr. Wright for being angry; he made a number of good points. However, he could have made those points without profanity and without making it seem that he hates the U.S. He apparently permitted his anger to over-ride good judgment with the result that his words were more harmful than helpful.

Senator Obama didn't use the best possible judgment by staying in that church. However, it makes no sense to assume that he agreed with everything that Wright said, and Obama's staying in that church is insufficient reason not to vote for him. No candidate is perfect, but Obama has shown that he is a man with good sense. It seems to me (and I realise that I could be mistaken, like anyone else) that he would make a very good president.

I happen to be a white man, although it really shouldn 't matter. In spite of the great progress we have made in the last half century (and I am old enough to know), we obviously have a way to go in reducing the racial divide. It may be that a black president would be in a better position than a white president to move us forward in this matter. I was very impressed with the speech he made following the Wright flap.

Also, Obama was one of the few with the courage and good sense to vote against our involvement in Iraq. Although I am concerned that he might pull us out in a manner that is not in the best interests of either Iraq or the U.S., I'm not sure how we should get out of this quagmire that we should have avoided in the first place.

Hey NoSoup4U. Nice article. You said: Obama said he has been an active member of this church for 20 years. Therefore, he knew the sermons Mr. Wright was preaching. Being that he didn't leave this church tells me that he, at minimum, believes the rhetoric this man is preaching. That is not O.K. with me! Well my friend for you to come from Alabama (The Belly of hatred toward Blacks) Lets not go there about rhetoric. The entire Southern Baptists Association hated and produced rhetoric against Blacks for AGES! From Jerry Falwell to Bob Jones, and also good Ol' George Wallace. That is not OK and never will be! Though Blacks still live and are making moves in spite of. There has never been a contrite spirit from any of these hate mongers. And the bottom line is it’s all about CHANGE so try something new and NOT more of the same. As far as Obama for President. That is how I feel anyway. So to all NON Blacks that post on here who think negative of us PLEASE stop thinking that we want our "40 acres and a mule" All we want is GOD DAMN respect can some of you try and give us that? And to Mr. Pena, Cuba, and Nor Nicaragua could never compare to the atrocities that happened to Blacks in America spare me that. I will NEVER forget legacy it is a part of me. And as you being Republican congratulations! As for this statement you made: The stupid Democrats assume that every Hispanic is one of them. What an insult! First of all to call Democrats stupid is an insult. Would it be nice if it was said that your Parents were illegal aliens who had their kids in America so they could be Americans? NO!!! That would be not be a nice thing to say so “Practice what you preach” Also, last I've seen most of South Florida (Cuban Americans vote Republicans, many South Americans in Texas, Ohio, and Illinois vote Republican as well) so I'm not sure what you mean by they think all Hispanics are democrats. And as for this statement: The Democrats offer a “special education program” for idiots called “affirmative action,” so that later on they can pinpoint (like Ferraro) that minorities are mentally inferior so they need extra points of entrance exams. IDIOTS???? I’m assuming you were referring to us Blacks? Then you need to search the CNN archives on a show they did about Illegal aliens in America as there was a young Man from Mexico living here illegally going to Georgia State University for FREE. Because of a state government policy that allows him to attend absolutely no charge but not us Americans. HUH???? Sound like an affirmative Action to me. So is your fellow Latino Brother an idiot??????? Sorry we are not offered those types of programs. Then you said: Please! Stop all the crying... NO PLEASE YOU STOP YOUR BULLSHIT statements. I don't know any Blacks that are asking for extra points on exams and so forth. So spare me your soapbox and maybe learn something about positive Blacks in America who strive and struggle to make it like all Americans. And as for the republicans are concerned they have already allowed God to DAMN AMERICA 1. High Gas Prices 2. Mortgage foreclosures 3. A Horrific Economy 4. Severe Unemployment Need I say more? Go figure my friend and be careful of the stones you throw!

The Latino brother pin-points what is really at the very heart of the "racial debate" Individuals like him looking at a situation from the outside looking in, forming a very un-or in some cased ill-informed opinion about a subject they have no real understanding of. I find interesting at the end of his ragefull tarrant he pointed out the plight of his native brothers in South America. Now how would he like it if someone who knows nothing about over there, going off about them needing to overthrow the drug cartels, and stamp-out all the coruption, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps! If you dont know or want to know about the struggles of African Americans thats cool, but spare us your sermon on whats wrong with us. When the only reason your ass even have a country to complain about is because my ancestors built it. OK! Name one thing Latinos have contributed to the US? Besides driving down the wages.... SO please dont go there... Oh by the way I know yahl playa hated on Obama in Texas but he still won the Caucus! Cant stop the bum-rush!!! Obama 08!!!

The Latino brother pin-points what is really at the very heart of the "racial debate" Individuals like him looking at a situation from the outside looking in, forming a very un-or in some cased ill-informed opinion about a subject they have no real understanding of. I find interesting at the end of his ragefull tarrant he pointed out the plight of his native brothers in South America. Now how would he like it if someone who knows nothing about over there, going off about them needing to overthrow the drug cartels, and stamp-out all the coruption, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps! If you dont know or want to know about the struggles of African Americans thats cool, but spare us your sermon on whats wrong with us. When the only reason your ass even have a country to complain about is because my ancestors built it. OK! Name one thing Latinos have contributed to the US? Besides driving down the wages.... SO please dont go there... Oh by the way I know yahl playa hated on Obama in Texas but he still won the Caucus! Cant stop the bum-rush!!! Obama 08!!!

Our Sista womanist, Alice Walker has made some wonderful points. Check out this link: http://www.theroot.com/id/45469 BTW Obama has won Texas with regard to the number of delegates. Incidentally, Senator Barack Obama is campaigning to be Democratic nominee for president of the US of A NOT his former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. If you doubt Obama's allegiance to America, just read his books, listen to his words -and some of you will say I'm being naive and maybe I am- get acquainted with his philosophies then make a decision. And remember one thing: the person for whom we vote is our voice, our proxy up in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington DC. Who do you want speaking for you? Be Peace,

How do some of you seem to believe that most care to read these long unedited postings that you write is beyond any logic. Anyway a question to the rational SonOfBaldwin: are you or we you ever a Jehovah's witness. It's in the way you Jehovah-ed that last one.

Nah, not a Jehovah's witness--never been one, never cared to be one. I'm just refering to the god of the bible, whose name, by all indication, is Jehovah (or Yahweh or YHWH). "God" is a generic term and I wanted to be specific.

Oh? I thought it was Allah? the great one? No? Any way in my language God's name is uMvelinqanga. The name clicks! loudly it strikes fear into the hearts of the weak.

I am so weary of the masses trying to find ways, opportunities and excuses to cover up this nations ways. What also angers me is that you want Blacks to support people who have never supported us, in great numbers. We attempt to make strong black leaders pay for there strengths. I too say if amerca is going to pull the 2000 sherade in 2008 let the chips fall where they may. I understand many blacks are just waiting too see what it is... You wanted G.W. Bush, you got him... now what elese you want?

Blacks in America have not only worked to build this great nation (This nations Capital, White House etc.) for free, we also fought in every American War. The French and Indian War, The Revolutionary War, The War of 1812, The Mexican War, The Civil War, The Spanish - American War, World War I, World War II, The War against Communism, The Korean War, Vietnam War,To Grenada, Kosovo, first and second Gulf Wars to Afghanistan. After 400 years of blood, sweat, tears, labor, and love for a Country at a time when you're subjected to hate. My fellow Americans what was/is it? Why the hate.

I thought there was problems in my country Kenya. You guys have a lot to sort out with yourselves.

I HOPE ONE DAY THAT WE CAN ALL BE CALLED AMERICAN NOT BUY THE COLOR OG OUR SKIN

This absolutely breaks my heart... No more TD Jakes in our home

My problem is not that people may disagree with Rev. Wright; my problem is that their disagreement is not based on a consideration of his entire sermon in context. (There is a biblical, textual, institutional, social, racial, and historical context). Moreover, it is interesting that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. made similar observations and, although often vilified, he has become a national hero. One of the problems, however, that many African-Americans have had historically is that white America has often had a propensity to want to choose the leadership of Black America. It is as if they are saying, "if he or she does not speak, write, or do as we say, then they are just a bunch of dangerous, un-American, hateful, dumb, ignorant, superficial, and trouble-making niggers. Historically, this was clearly seen in the contrasting political, philosophical, and theological poles found between W. E. Dubois and Booker T. Washington. It was also seen between Martin and Malcolm X; Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, and Al Sharpton. Now, there is another subtle attempt in some circles to do this with Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama. My question is this concerning one of Rev. Wright's essential statements: "Why is it alright for President Bush to make a distinction between the governments and the people of Iraq, Iran, South Korea and yet when this is done by Rev. Wright suddenly he is wrong and un-American. The truth of the matter is that often in the history of the United States the government (and for that matter the people) have engaged in evil, inhumane, unjust, and racist policies and practices. This statement is axiomatic: "Racism is still alive and doing extremely well"! Although much has been done in the area of race relations, the truth is a political campaign such as the one between Hillary Clinton (a white woman and Barack Obama (a bi-racial/Black man) only exposes the deep racial hatred and bigotry that still exists in the hearts of many Americans.

As I read all of the comments on this website and others about Obama, race, T.D. Jakes and voting, I am reminded of a few things. I am a Christian, born again, and believe that the Bible is the infallible Word of God. I first belong to the Kingdom of God, while living in this secular world, and therefore God's principles are what matter the most in my life. I believe that when one accepts Jesus Christ that they are changed, given a new nature, and according to the Word, God becomes their Father, and begins to restore their soul. Whatever has happened in the past, whether we are black, white, red, yellow or any other skin color, if we continue to live in the past, we will never have a future. If the power of God in me has any strength at all, which is does, then it will not only heal me emotionally but help me to let the things of the past go. No one can change the past, so why stay camped there? Paul, the Apostle said, forgetting those things that are behind, I press on toward the mark of the high calling of Jesus Christ. I am tired of hearing about the past of things that no one living today was part of: slavery or slave owners. No one can change what happened, but God changes us when we become His child, if we want Him too. Many people of all races have been hurt, abused, mistreated and many other things, but only God can heal and change, not another person, whether they try to legislate it through the government, it won't happen unless God is the one who heals and changes a person. Also, as a follower of Christ, I stick by His Word when functioning in this world, using it as the guideline of daily living. I check what God is for and against before voting for a person to be put into office that will effect this nation. I will give account to God only for myself, and He will not judge me for who gets into office, but on how I voted and what I stood for. We seemed to have turned everything all about us, and it's not, it's about Jesus. How can we gripe and complain about life in this country when it is the best country to live in to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ and the freedom to serve Him. If we are His followers then we will feed the hungry, clothe the naked and spread the good news of the gospel and walk in love. It is not all about us...it's about lost and dying people going to hell, not building our mansions and building our bank accounts. The only thing we can take when we step out of this life into heaven is what we have done for Christ, laying up treasures in heaven which are souls...bringing them out of darkness into the light. So as I pray about voting, rest assured, I will vote for the party that follows as closly to what I believe the bible teaches, not skin color or who can benefit me the most. I pray for America, for surely we are in the end of the end, what we are going to do for Christ, we must do quicly. Even so come..Lord Jesus.

We have so many people putting Rev. in front of there name and not preaching the bottom line of the gospel, FORGIVNESS. There are certain things that happen when people try to make right the wrongs to only to find out no matter what they do it is never enough. While it goes without saying this country was wrong about slavery and terrible injustice was committed against innocent people,most of us today do not agree with slavery or discrimnation and would never condone it in anyway. The problem is that we as a nation will never get passed this problem because unforgiveness and revenge is promoted, and forgiveness for the sins on the part of the white race is never extended. The bible says as much as hatred is wrong unforgiveness is worse because if those who have hated repent but they are not forgiven there is no cure. The bible also says that those who sow discord among the brethren are an abomanation to the Lord. We must quit calling people ministers and revrend if they are not preaching the gospel of forgiveness and reconcilation because that is the purpose for which Jesus came and that is the purpose for which all ministers are called. Jesus also said if you do not forgive you will not be forgiven. This verse would imply than that you are lost and don't know God. The real trouble with unforgiveness especilly perpetrated by people behind the pulpit who are suppose to represent God is that He is totally mispresented and that you are influencing those to have revenge, which in turn keeps them in a victim mentality so they never reach there full potential in God because they don't believe they can. And the worse thing of all is many of these so called Reverands are making money of the backs of the very people they say the are defending. If people keep trying to make right the wrongs they have committed but it is never good enough sooner or later they will give up become angry and they themselves will have unforgiveness. You will never have 100% percent of any race that doesn't have some predjidice but we cannot focus so much on those who will never change and throw away those who hate racism in all forms and never have been racist. When Jesus forgives he holds no record of wrongs and the debt that we owe is paid in full and by that we are free on the other hand when forgiveness is not offered the wrong some one has done is always being brought up and payment is always expected and it is never enough. If you can't afford to pay God back for what you've done then you must release those you feel have wronged you or the grace of God cannot and will not save you. I know this was rather lenghty but someone needs to start talking about why we never seem to get past this dark page in our history. One last thing there are so many nation that have had slavery in there history, Egypt in Africa kept the hebrews in slavery for 400 years but God still extends forgiveness to them. don't let unforgiveness, anger and revenge cloud your judgement. Let God heal you and make you all He has called you to be.

Bishop Jakes, Rev. Wright or who ever it may be, God is still in control! If we can only remember the reason why we are in this mess in the frist place how can we MOVE forward. The frist sin ever committed wasn't Adam sin, it was committed in Heaven by Lucifer and it was in his HEART!!!!! I will, I will, I will of life is still killing this world softly. And the only way that this can be resolve is through being acountable for our own words, and action.Romans 5:19-6:1,2 says, For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reigh through righteousness unto eternal life by JESUS CHRIST our LORD. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? GOD forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? When the church is fighting among themselves it's a sad picture to look on. I'm a baptist preach whatever that means. How can any of us preach, and move forward without telling another who we are. I hear preacher all over say I am a AME preacher, baptist, full baptiist,frist baptist ect: Do we understand that we are gospel preacher before we are anything!!!!! Let's all come together join hand in hand and admit that all of us are wrong in some way or another. This is my frist time putting a comment on line. I LOVE ALL OF YOU!!! BE BLESS in JESUS name Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such hatred! The scripture says You will know they are christians by their love for one another. Think about this. This hatred is political, racial or socially motivated. It has nothing to do with God or with Jesus. Nothing. A building, a tv program is not necessarily a church or people who are hearing from God. Money certainly is the driving force behind most of the tv preachers but please don't put the two together. The scripture says at one point the even God didn't have it in His mind that "they would do such things". Look it up in a concordance. But the hatred of religion and those who spit it are so twisted and do not know or understand scripture much less who God is and what He is doing in our world. He still runs His world. You haters will never win; the tv preachers will die and be gone. Don't hate. PM Zimmer

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